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Side Affects Podcast

Provoking People to Think Differently

At McGohan Brabender, we know the importance of staying on top of the latest industry trends and keeping your workforce informed. That’s why we created our podcast, Side Affects, to help take the complexity out of healthcare.  

Whether you are new to insurance or a seasoned executive, our podcast provides expert advice and innovative ideas about leadership, legislation, culture, compliance, and other topics. When you tune in to Side Affects, you’ll access exclusive insights from industry experts who share their knowledge and experiences. Our hosts, along with our guests, provide practical advice and proven strategies to help you improve your services in a crowded market. 

Our podcast, which has received “new and noteworthy” recognition three times, was the first benefits podcast published on iTunes and is designed for busy professionals who want to stay informed while continuing to keep up with the demands of their business. We offer an immersive audio experience that can be accessed anytime, anywhere, making it the perfect tool to help you stay ahead of the curve. 

Explore our collection of over 130 podcast episodes and discover how we can help you elevate your benefits.

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Previous Podcasts

Episode #62

The Shifting Focus Of Health Care

Side Affects listeners were among the first to hear about new approaches to paying for health care, including the cost/quality relationship, pricing transparency and value-based contracting. Scott McGohan and Anne Marie Singleton look at how these new conversations are changing the mindset of employers.

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Episode #61

46brooklyn

We all know that prescription drug prices are costing us a lot of money. One Ohio company is doing something about it. 46Brooklyn was created to obtain, analyze and release data on pharmaceutical pricing. Listen as these two men explain how they are using data to make drug pricing transparent.

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Episode #059

Epiphany Rx

Brenda Motheral is making a difference in health care. With an impressive 25+ years in the industry, Brenda is working to make the pharmaceutical world transparent. She explains how her company – Epiphany Rx – stands out against other PBMs.

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Episode #58

ACAP and the Future of Health Care

Since 2007, ACAP Health set out to change the way employers approach wellness. The outcomes-based strategy was born, and it has exceeded expectations as a proven way to reduce costs and improve health. It’s a simplified solution that addresses the basic equation: Price x Use = Cost.

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Episode #57

Den Bishop Can Fix Health Care!

Den Bishop, president of Holmes Murphy, has a keen grasp on what’s wrong with health care today and how to change it. This much is clear: Employers cannot continue to shoulder the ever-growing costs of health care. So, what’s the answer – single payer? All-payer? Medicare for all? Or none of the above?

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Episode #56

Bezos, Buffett and the Future of Health Care

Amazon, Berkshire Hathaway and JP Morgan Chase announced they were partnering to change the way benefits are delivered to their employees. If their combined technology can produce simpler, faster and more transparent health care, then Scott says there is hope.

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Episode #054

Please Don’t Take A Seat

People are biologically meant to move, but our culture - including our workplaces - encourage us to sit and be still. Learn more about the fresh approach to achieving a healthier workforce

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Episode #055

Beam Delivers High-Tech Dental Hygiene

Alex Frommeyer's strategy for dental care is hitting home and bringing the tech. If you’re going to offer dental coverage, Frommeyer says, it makes sense to encourage dental hygiene.

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Episode #48

The Health Care Top 10

Scott and Anne Marie walk through the Health Care Executive Group’s annual Top 10 list. The list reflects the challenges, opportunities and issues facing health care executives. At the top of the list for 2018: leveraging data with clinical evidence, something MB knows well. Find out other trends to watch for in 2018.

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Episode #34

Risk and Self-Funding

Scott and Anne Marie take another look at self-funding, this time considering the risks. In the long run, self-funding will save most companies money. But you have to be prepared for a down year. Is stop-loss the answer? Scott and Anne Marie talk about how stop-loss can protect you from a future unknown risk.

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Episode #53

The Case for Onsite Clinics

If you thought onsite clinics are available only to large employers, prepare to think differently. Scott and Anne Marie reveal how employers of all sizes can realize lower costs and better outcomes with onsite clinics. And learn why investing in consistent, quality care is now an option for employers of any size.

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Episode #51

The Direct Primary Care Movement

In Direct Primary Care, patients pay a level monthly fee for access to their primary care physician as needed. Scott and Anne Marie welcome Dr. Amy Mechley of Integrative Family Care of Cincinnati, who explains how her Direct Primary Care practice works as an alternative to traditional insurance plans.

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Episode #50

A Primary Partnership

Primary care is garnering respect and generating results, thanks to a rise in health care consumerism and value-based reimbursement models. Here are the not-so-hidden benefits of a primary partnership.

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Episode #49

Raising the Bar for Law

In this episode of Side Affects, Jill Snitcher McQuain of the Columbus Bar Association talks with Scott McGohan about how the CBA’s mission. The CBA is dedicated to bringing lawyers together for the betterment of the legal profession while helping the community and clients who are seeking legal assistance.

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Episode #47

Navigating Health Care

Health care billing and coverage issues are complicated. When issues arise, you need someone with knowledge to advocate for you. Scott and Anne Marie welcome Kim Snyder, MB’s customer care manager, to talk about how her team of industry experts knows how to fight for our clients, saving them time, headaches, and money.

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Episode #46

The Opioid Crisis

Scott and Anne Marie welcome Jay Meyer to share his story of overcoming opioid addiction. Meyer, a former pharmacist, tells a chilling story of how easy it is to slip into addiction, and how difficult it is to emerge. Now a personal development coach, Meyer shared his insights from his personal journey.

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Episode #45

The Health Care Executive Order

In October 2017, President Trump signed the Health Care Executive Order that would eliminate the requirement for essential benefits coverage, among other things. Scott and Anne Marie welcome Grant Reed, MB’s Director of Financial and Analytical Services, to examine what this means for employers.

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Episode #44

Who’s Really on Drugs?

A month before the November 2017 election, Ohioans were still unclear on Issue 2, the Ohio Drug Price Relief Act. On the surface, it sounds like a good thing for Ohio consumers. Scott and Anne Marie are joined by MB colleagues Michael Orr and Adam Griffith to examine Issue 2 may, in fact, have the opposite effect.

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Episode #43

A United Way for Better Communities

This episode of Side Affects steps away from health care and into creating healthier communities. Scott McGohan is joined by members of the United Way and Coldwell Banker Heritage Realtors to discuss the challenges Americans are facing today, the biggest forces impacting our communities and much more.

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Episode #42

Driving Leadership

Scott McGohan welcomes Ryan Hawk of the Learning Leader Show to discuss the traits that drive others to become better leaders. As the owner of Leadership Podcast, Ryan has spoken to over 200 business leaders and influencers. He shares the qualities, skills, and secrets utilized by the most successful leaders today.

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Episode #41

Investing in Leadership

Business leaders often find themselves unable to turn to a colleague for advice or feedback. Fortunately, Aileron is here. Scott is joined by Joni Fedders, President at Aileron, to discuss how Aileron is creating a space where entrepreneurs can express their honest concerns and get valuable feedback.

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Episode #40

The Ohio Drug Price Relief Act

Scott and Anne Marie welcome back Antonio Ciaccia of the Ohio Pharmacy Association to dissect Issue 2, the Ohio Drug Price Relief Act that was subsequently defeated in Ohio in November 2017. Learn why pharmacists believed the issue, which purported to lower drug prices, would have unintended consequences for consumers.

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Episode #39

Giving Back

If you think your organization can’t afford to give back, think again. Scott and Anne Marie show how resources spent on charitable pursuits is good for employers, employees … and it’s good for business. When more people are selective about who they work for or do business with, a giving culture can give you the edge.

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Episode #38

Value-Based Health Care

Value-based health care is an emerging reimbursement model that doesn’t penalize doctors for making their patients healthy. In other words, doctors are paid for positive outcomes, rather than the traditional fee-for-service model. Scott and Anne Marie talk about how – and why – Value-Based Health Care works.

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Episode #36

The Problem with PBMs

Scott and Anne Marie welcome guest Antonio Ciaccia of the Ohio Pharmacists Association to talk about high prescription drug prices. Ciaccia says a “dysfunctional system” allows a lack of transparency, and that makes it possible for middlemen within the pharmacy supply chain to negotiate high prices in secrecy.

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